
Which was the best performance of the night?
| Lil and Queen Latifah | |
| Anoop, Alexis and Jason Mraz | |
| Kris and Keith Urban | |
| Allison and Cyndi Lauper | |
| Danny and Lionel Richie | |
| Adam and KISS | |
| Megan, Michael and Steve Martin | |
| Adam, Kris and Queen | |
| David Cook | |
| The Girls and Fergie | |
| The Black Eyed Peas | |
| The Guys and Rod Stewart | |
| Top 13 with Carlos Satana | |
| Other (Please specify) |
Two very talented men -- Adam and Kris. Photo courtesy of American Idol.
With just under 100 million votes cast towards deciding this year's winner, American Idol pulled out all the stops for its two hour finale. And what a finale it was!
The dark horse prevailed. Kris Allen has been declared the Season 8 Winner of American Idol. He's come a long way from the guy we didn't meet until Hollywood Week and didn't get to know until the Top 13.
Ryan never released how close the vote came, but I can't imagine that it wasn't close. We couldn't have been treated to two more deserving candidates for the finale. Both men are very, very talented and seem like all around good guys.
And I loved all of Adam and Kris' performances tonight. I had a hard time picking my favorite.
In fact, the whole finale was stunning. Usually, I'm annoyed by all the fluff Idol parade out to fill out their two hour shows. But this show was completely different. It was one stunning performance after another.
The opening number of the night saw the return of the Top 13 singing Pink's "So What." It was really nice to see the whole gang back together again. I've already forgotten some of the faces; it's been so long since we've seen them. But it was nice to see Alexis back in the fold.
Speaking of old faces, last year's winner David Cook returned to perform his single "Permanent," a song he wrote with Chantal Kreviazuk and Raine Maida. The proceeds from the sale of this iTunes song will go to Accelerate Brain Cancer Cure (ABC2), a DC-based organization dedicated to finding a cure for brain cancer.
Next we got to get a look back at the auditions with the Golden Idol Awards.
The first trophy went to Nick Mitchell aka Norman Gentle for Outstanding Male. I'm so glad that we got to see Nick one more time this season. He really added some humor to the beginning of the season.
The next award went to Katrina Darrell aka Bikini Girl for Best Attitude. Is it me or did the bikini get smaller? But the best part had to be when Kara came out and showed her up – vocally! I'll let you guys be the judge of who had the better body.
The last award, Outstanding Female, went to Tatiana Nicole Del Toro. Either she really wants her 15 minutes of fame or she's a good sport to play along as Idol poked fun at her.
But then we got down to some serious singing.
The first duet brought back Lil Rounds and paired her with Queen Latifah for "Cue the Rain." I was hoping without the pressure of the judging we'd see the Lil we loved during the early phases. Unfortunately, singing with Queen Latifah proved that Lil's voice just isn't that great.
On the other hand, Anoop Desai and Alexis Grace sounded wonderful as they sang "I'm Yours" with Jason Mraz. I think it says a lot about Alexis' popularity that she got a shot at the spotlight tonight. Last year, only the Top 6 got to perform, other than group numbers, during the finale.
Now, I don't think of Kris Allen as a country singer, but I loved his duet of "Kiss a Girl" with Keith Urban. They both looked like they were having a ball. This duet was one of my favorite performances of the night.
The stars keep coming, the girls from got to do a medley with Fergie before introducing the Black Eyed Peas.
Another good pairing was Allison Iraheta and Cyndi Lauper on "Time After Time." I always thought of Allison as a through back to the 80s and this duet proved it. I thought they sounded perfect togher. And was Cyndi playing a steel guitar? I didn't know she could play.
And while the producers got the pairing right with Allison, I have to wonder what they were thinking with Danny Gokey. They had him sing a solo of "Hello" before continuing the medley with Lionel Richie. However, no one will ever compare to the David Cook version of "Hello" from last season. I think the producers just set up Danny for a comparison he could never live up to. The rest of the medley wasn't bad though.
Now the next guest performer shocked me. I'd have never guessed that they would make an appearance on American Idol. But with Adam in the finale it seems only right he should get partnered with KISS for a medley. Now that was a performance that rocked!
But the stars didn't stop there. Carlos Santana took the stage with a guitar solo of "Black Magic Woman" before performing "Smooth" with the Top 13.
Then we got one last Ford Video that was really just a clip of videos from throughout the season as Adam and Kris sang "I Will Remember You." And then David Cook handed the keys over to Adam and Kris for their brand new 2010 Ford Fusions.
Idol is full of surprises tonight because I had no idea that Steve Martin had musical aspirations, let alone could play the banjo. But I liked "Pretty Flowers," the song he wrote and performed with Megan Joy and Michael Sarver. The song itself actually suited the pair really well.
Next up, the guys got to sing "Do You Think I'm Sexy" before Rod Stewart came out to sing "Maggie May."
The final duet went to the two stars of the night. Adam and Kris teamed up with Queen to sing "We are the Champions." The rest of the Top 13 joined them on backgrounds. What a great way to close the night. And can I say that I think Adam and Kris actually would do well singing together!
Unfortunately, they couldn't just give us the results and end it there. Poor Kris had to sing "No Boundaries" again.
What I can't understand is if the producers can do such great pairings for the finale, why can't they (and the judges) do a better job picking songs for the contestants to sing.
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Finally!!!! We got to hear Adam sing a Queen song! I was also pleasantly suprised at how good he and Kris sounded together.
I'm glad Kris pulled it off, but I thing Adam will find success despite the 2nd place finish.
There have been times when I haven't agreed with the majority of voters, but this is the first time that I actually feel that a robbery took place.
Yes...HOW CLOSE was the vote? I really believe Chris got Danny's votes.
Although Chris can sing, I think he could produce/arrange also and be "behind the scenes" as well.
I think the reason the closeness of the votes wasn't mentioned was because it wasn't close. I think that all of Danny's voters voted for Kris which would put Adam pretty far behind. Adam will do fabulous things; Danny will also; Kris will fade into the sunset. He just does not have the star power to go very far, I don't think. I liked him, but if the three of them were having their own concert, Adam's would be the only one i would pay to see. He may go over the top sometimes but he outperformed everyone week after week and he is a talented man.
I also have a feeling it wasn't close. They didn't announce it last year when Cook blew away Archie. When it's close, they say it - "out of 100 million votes, the finalists were separated by less than one percent!" or something to that effect. The fact that they didn't say that leads me to believe that it was not close, which leads me to believe that Gokey's votes really gave Kris a boost.
While I don't agree with this, my sister thinks that Adam actually had the most votes but that since 19 Entertainment has the ultimate power of decision, they decreed Kris the winner.
Not sure where she got that from but ... I guess who really knows? It's not like they tell you. But personally I think it really doesn't matter whether the vote was close or not. Time will tell who is truly the bigger star, just as it has in previous years.
What I liked was when Adam pulled Kris back on camera when the results guy came out and blocked the audience's view of Kris. Too cute. :) And Kris's reaction to winning - priceless. I think he said something (or started to) about Adam deserving it, which just goes to show how much respect the two of them have for each other. Adam's first reaction was a huge smile and a big hug for Kris... how many other people would have done that?? I mean, he was genuinely happy for Kris. Really, most people would have wanted to run off the stage and cry. Ok, maybe that's just me... I would have run off the stage. lol
nxw- I totally agree! I would have a hard time staying out there, not because I wasn't happy for the other guy but because losing sucks! And especially to lose something like this, where basically you are being told that people don't like you as much - that's gotta burn on some level. I think Kris would have been equally gracious had the results been reversed, and I think that speaks highly of both of them.
Thing is, many people vote numerous times over the 4 hrs. It should be limited to one vote per phone #, with blocked phone numbers not able to vote.
Agreed - voting system needs to be revamped, but that wouldn't allow for multiple family members to vote for their favorite. Case in point: my Dad likes Adam, my Mom likes Kris. If they could have only places one vote, that would not have been fair to somebody. Can't just assume everyone has a cell phone or multiple phone lines.
I think it could be modeled a little more after DWTS, though. I believe the # of votes per phone line are limited.
Yes, and DWTS also allows voting online - a certain number of votes per email address or phone number, and I believe you can also text as well. I really wish Idol allowed voting online. As far as I know, DWTS has never had technical problems with that.
I'm soooo disappointed Kris won But, I told you earlier today from the other sites he would!! I thought Adam was AWESOME tonight. I liked Kris with Keith, but Adam is it for me. He really blew me away tonight. I really don't think Adam wanted the crown though, he got his exposure, he really seemed happy not to have it. I think now he knows he is free to do whatever he wants and I think that is better for Adam. I think he would kick a bit at the restrictions that come with Ido! I wish Kris luck and hope he does well just as I know Adam will rock our world go Adam!!
Danny outsung Kris tonight. I wonder what in the h.ell went on with the voting. Did America vote its prejudice? Didn't want a queer Idol? The difference in the level of talent between the two is so obvious.
I totally agree. Kris is pleasant. Adam has the potential to be a superstar.
Vacelts - agree. Did not like Lil's performance last night at all. Queen Latifah was good, though.
Who knew Kara could sing that well?? She may not be able to write a good finale song, but she can definitely sing.
Brenda - I think the voting answer is pretty simple. Kris is closer to Top 40 than Adam. While I prefer hard rock and metal, most do not. Number 1 hits are not typically from Led Zeppelin, KISS but more from Mariah Carey and Justin Timberlake.
So conspiracies aside, the reality is that it's very likely that much of Adam's love of rock and drama do not go with Top 40. It may be a few people who allow some puritanical view of life affect their choice, but I really think it was about style. No matter how well Adam performed and sang, the style was not the Top 40 taste.
I love both of these guys. Their successes will be what they make of this opportunity. Is Kris really prepared to do the work that a successful career demands? I think Adam is very much committed this as a career. We'll see with Kris. Kris has a lot of versatility. He'll never be the rock god and I don't think he'd want to be one. I don't want him to be something that he's not.
Anniho... right on the money with most of your comment. I think Adam has the potential for stardom, with a smooth, multi-faceted voice. However, he consistently chose to use it to pound out excessively high notes. Most people I confer with found that annoying. When he remains moderate in his pitches and tone, he exceeds.
Kris is simply true to form. As Kara mentioned, everyone knows what to expect from him and can easily picture the type of album he would put out. Whereas Adam was basically all over the board. Adam can do a wide range of things in the future. Loved his 1st song of the finals.
This was a truly amazing night. American voters, in my opinion, always get it right.
I thought the finale ROCKED! Kiss and Adam was my favorite of the night. My next one was Carlos Santana with all the runer ups. I was surprised Kris won, but very happy for him. I believe we will be hearing a lot from Adam in the future. Bikini girl and Kara's stunt was not expected, but it was cool who knew Kara could sing.
I thought the show was great! I liked some numbers better than others but all in all the 2 hours flew by.
I'm happy Kris won. I feel that people were tired of Adam and his screaming. But I'm sure Adam will be successful. It seems he will fit well with bands like Kiss or Queen.
I was surprised at how much I enjoyed last night's show. It really did fly by.
Adam was robbed! He definitely deserved to win - he was great from day one. Why don't the mentors, who are professionals vote at the end instead of the public. They know TALENT. Cant' wait for Adam's album. Enjoy your future Adam!
They don't seem to be buying Taylor Hicks CDs. Apparently Ruben Studdard's album is being released right away at a discount price.
Adam was predictable, Kris was not as predictable. That why Kris won. His rendition of "Heartless" was incredible and showed. With adam, you just wait for him to belt out his high pitched wail. I, personally, didn't like those screams. Had Adam kept it down a notch, I think he would have won. Instead, I was left with the feeling of "OK, here's the part of every song where he sticks his tongue out and screams."
I'm watching this on DVR right now, so I'll add comments as I go. But so far:
This has been a freakishly good final. Not exactly consistent, but certainly unpredictable, energetic and pretty damn good.
Did something happen during the Fergie/Black Eyed Peas set? My fox jumped to a "American Idol" screen saver for a few seconds in the middle, and I wonder if that was technical difficulties, or one of the performers doing something not so kosher for network TV?
Also, Kara, wow! That makes up for all your recent crappy judging.
I know he didn't win, but for all of those who keep saying that Adam only belongs on the theatre or Broadway or that his act is all visual and won't transfer to album form, I think this finale put the nail in the coffin of that argument. I think Kiss has a pretty @!$%#ing theatrical and visual performance and I also believe they sold a few records in their day. Saying Adam only belongs in theatre or Broadway is like saying Kris only belongs in a coffee shop. Just because your imagination is so stunted so that you can't visualize more doesn't mean there's not more.
I miss Alexis Grace. I really think the save should have been used for her. She probably wouldn't have won, but she probably could have made it another five or six weeks. Five more weeks of Alexis is better than two more weeks of Matt in my book.
The Carlos Santana set is really showcasing which of the Idols can sing, and which can't. Jorge sounded downright awful, I'm glad he didn't go. And while I was never a Danny Gokey fan, he definitely has a voice.
Is it just me or did Megan get hotter ... and took a dance lesson or two?
So I'm thinking next year ... Celebrity American Idol??? Steve Martin, William Shatner, Zooey Deschanel, Neil Patrick Harris, Anne Hathaway? If they could actually get contestants like that it could work!
LOL @ Celebrity Idol! Brilliant! xD
Wow, Rod Stewart's voice is really gone.
Oh, and that break was a bit of censoring in the song, that's all. =)
It's not Queen if Freddie Mercury doesn't rise from the dead and perform with them. I mean, if Paul McCartney and Ringo got together that's not the Beatles.
Kris may have won, but I think Adam goes on to sell more records. The acoustic guitar/singer-songwriter genre is so hard to break into. There's so many artists out there (most of whom will write their own music rather than record crap that Kara writes), and it will be hard to rise from that. Adam on the other hand is pretty damn unique, and can stand out easier. Plus, I think it helped Kris win in that many a voter was probably voting against Adam more so than voting for Kris. But whatever, that doesn't take away from what Kris actually did, and he's a damn good American Idol.
Though I do feel sad that he has to sing that damn Kara song again. She needs to show more skin than she did tonight to make up for that monstrosity.
The "glitch" in the Black Eyed Peas segment was requested by will.i.am so he could swear during the song to the audience and not over the airwaves. There was a blurb on it in MSNBC but now I can't find it.
So I'm rewatching the girls music number, and I think Megan has got to be all legs during that segment. Damn!
As for the "glitch", if that was just standard swear removal why not do cover it up with something a bit less abrupt and brunt. Do a long shot camera view so we can't read his lips and then either just bleep it out or down the sound just for his vocal mic. If you set it all up during the dress rehearsal you can do it.
Celebrity Idol - Great Idea! It could be on over the summer! :-)
When the Idol screen came up, I screamed "NO!!!" because I so didn't want to miss any of the finale. The whole thing was fantastic, if you ask me.
Adam, I totally agree with you about Alexis. I wish they had used the save on her. I actually think she would have gone further than Allison. I definitely think she was better than Matt and would have lasted longer than he did. I was very happy to see her back.
Not so happy about Megan. I never really cared for her to begin with and that did not change last night. She's hot though, I'll give her that.
And I LOVED Kara showing up to outsing the bikini girl. That was one of the best moments of the night for me - and very funny that she flashed her own bikini. I don't know why she covered up so fast, though. From what I could tell, she should be strutting her stuff.
Adam Hobson, once again, I agree with you. The show was great. Kara redeemed herself with that performance. Ditto re Queen without Mercury, but the guys were great together.
Celebrity Duets was a stinker, so I'm not ready for Celebrity Idol.
And I LOVED Kara showing up to outsing the bikini girl. That was one of the best moments of the night for me - and very funny that she flashed her own bikini. I don't know why she covered up so fast, though. From what I could tell, she should be strutting her stuff.
I thought the same thing, but she seemed really shy about it. Bikini Girl's reaction was HILARIOUS... especially the fact that she (sort of) tried to sing while Kara was singing and got intimidated into not singing.
I loved the Queen dute between Adam and Kris - easliy my favorite performance of the night, although there were many others I enjoyed as well. I wish we could download those on itunes!! I didn't see them there this morning, though.
I thought the Kara bit was disgusting...
what's so funny about a grown (supposedly successful) woman trying to upstage a "nobody"?
It wasn't "funny" during the auditions, and it wasn't funny last night either.
what's so funny about a grown (supposedly successful) woman trying to upstage a "nobody"?
I think it was just harkening back to the auditions more than Kara trying to upstage her last night - they were playing off that little drama, and it worked, in my opinion.
The Kara bit was surprising and emphatically entertaining. Yes, she can sing. And yes, she looks good in a bikini.
But... moreso, I agree with the comments above. Alexis should have been saved. She was my fave from the beginning. She had a wonderful voice.
Yeah Adam, Kara was good. I thought that bit tied up that loose end. Good hair, good body, good voice.
Megan got hotter. I like her voice. Not enough to win the competition, but I would buy her CD.
As for Rod Stewart, his voice seemed the same to me. How can you rasp raspy? I thought the show was a good tribute to some legends.
Adam held his own with Paul Stanley and it was cool seeing him with Brian May.
I also liked Alexis and thought she should have stayed longer, but last night she seemed a little weak.
Is it me or does Megan sound a little like Fergie?
nxw01:
Not to me. Megan is a little raspy like a folksy Bonnie Tyler.
My turn -
Is it me or does Fergie look like Taylor Dayne when she was young or Kirstie Alley when she was fit?
NY2LV - ditto on Fergie = Fit Kirstie
Great show although I thought Adam should have won. At least he won't have to sing and try to sell that horrible song co written by Kara. Personally I think Danny and Allison out sang Chris but then I couldn't believe it the year Taylor Hicks won either. Adam will be free to pursue what he's really meant to sing and not be pigeon holed into something that doesn't suit him. I'd pay to see him in concert any day and Allison too.
That's right and he realy deserve it!
I wonder if being saddled with that craptastic song is going to hurt Kris. I can't imagine any version of it is going to get much air play...
I was thinking the same thing, SlinkyGirl. That song needs boundaries. Unless he can put out a version without hurricanes and mountains and butterflies or whatever the heck they put in there....
wonder if being saddled with that craptastic song is going to hurt Kris. I can't imagine any version of it is going to get much air play...
I heard it on my local radio station this morning. i cringed for poor Kris.
Yikes... already on the radio. Well, then again - that may be a good thing. They can do their due diligence now, get it out of their systems, and we can all look forward to Kris's REAL first single that he puts out. I don't think that "No Boundaries" should even count.
I'm REAL disappointed in the American public!!! Tonight showed they don't vote for talent! Adam Lambert has more talent in his big toe than Chris has in his whole body!!! I will NO LONGER watch American Idol!!!
I'm with you on not watching AI anymore. Adam was robbed; I couldn't believe the results. He will go on to be a superstare, can't wait to get his CD.
People, People, People come on enough already. Why can't you be happy for both of them ? They both are obviously talented, contrary to what you think. Kris and Adam as well as a few others from the show this season will go on to have varying degrees of success. But "I will NO LONGER watch American Idol!!! " what a childish attitude to have. Both of them have been given the biggest breaks of their lives regardless of the outcome so be happy for them as they were for each other.
Well, I will watch next year but it's going to be pretty hard finding talent that competes with this years' contestants. And I feel sorry for any "rocker" that tries out in the future - unless they are very, very good they will just be compared to Adam. Hard to top him in that category!
Very true, nxw, much the same way any country-leaning singers are compared to Carrie Underwood now.
Maaaan. :( I thought Adam should've won! The finale as a whole was fun though.
At least Adam doesn't have to release that awful song as his first single though. ;)
Ugh, I know, right? xD I hope his cd is far better than that piece of junk.
I still thing the song is carp, but I thought Kris sounded better singing it last night than he did Tuesday night. Do you suppose they pre-record it lip sync in case they are too emotional after they win? Again - the song is still sludge!!!
I don't think they pre-record it. There was a part when Kris stopped singing it for a second so I think it was live.
He sounded better, but the song itself sure didn't!!
I thought it sounded like he had more heart in it, but maybe that's just wishful thinking, lol.
Now they will have some time to touch that song up a bit. It will turn out fine.
One question though, did Rod Stewart seem trip a couple of times during his performance or was it just me? He looked to have a little "glaze" in his eyes while he sang but got through the song OK. Maybe he just took a couple of shots for stage jitters. It was good to see him again.
Tasha - the song was definitely a carp but I agree with you that Kris sounded good singing it and almost made it respectable - another reason he IS rightfully the American Idol
Adam won and everyone knows it ,even Kris knows.He's lucky he got the christian vote,and he knows that's how he won. This show needs to do something different ,I know america votes,but come on it's about singing the best not how you look. Kris never went out of his comfort zone only sang slow ones.I thought you had to be able to sing anything,like Adam. This finale show was awesome,why didn't they sing like that the whole season. I mean the song choices? The best part of the show was when Kara came out and sang.
hehe, that definitely was a highlight.
i totaly agree kris got the christian vote that is how kris won and he knew it because he said it it was a talent show adam should have won
The Christian bloggers got this one for Chris. He is moderately talented, but his voice control is weak. I have heard more "clinkers" from him this season than anyone(except maybe Lil Rounds). He will have a moderate career in kind of a Jack Johnson sort of way. Adam, on the other hand, has the potential to have a huge music career, and is lucky he didnt win. All he has to do is the tour, and then he is off to the races. Chris is in endentured servitude to the American Idol Machine for the next few years.
Americans need to obliterate this religious influence in our country. It permeates the culture and "dumbs us down". Count this as a victory for the AMERICAN TALIBAN.
Was it me or did Bikini Girl look like she had no idea that was going to happen !!! If she didn't great set-up Idol !!!!
Oh, man, I missed the announcement at church that I was supposed to vote for Kris!! Hopefully I'll be forgiven since he won anyway.
I'm actually happy for Kris even though I love me some Adam Lambert. Sad he has to release that SONG!, but, glad for him. He seems like a good enough guy and he's very talented.
Yeah, atlgirl, I too missed that announcement. While I'm disappointed and seriously annoyed, I'm not at all surprised at this morning's "Christian gay-bashers stole the prize for Kris" narrative. I knew it was coming. News flash: I've sung in church choirs for 30 years and--gasp!--I also listen to Pearl Jam and Red Hot Chili Peppers and sometimes Metallica. I don't know any Christian rock artists, and I don't judge people--artists or otherwise--on their sexual preferences or nail polish colors. I enjoyed Adam for awhile,--he certainly is an exquisite technician--but I grew tired of his over-the-top delivery and never got a sense of the kind of musical authenticity that I saw in Kris, also a very fine singer. Sorry. That said, I think they'll both go on to enjoy some measure of success--along with Danny and Allison, I hope.
Yup. Contrary to the "Christians ruined the show" mentality... maybe the media's obvious bias was soley for the purpose of supporting the gay agenda? I forget, were we supposed to vote for best singer... or based on sexual orientation??
Kris won because Adam screamed in every song. Ask around, it annoyed most of the people that voted. Had he toned it down, he probably would have won. The market for high pitched screaming songs is pretty small, though. Haven't heard any on the radio lately.
leslie - Kris won - he got the most votes - that's how the show works - take your idea to CBS - maybe they'll give you the money to produce a show the "right" way and you can save us all from ourselves
Kris has the title, but they BOTH have talent making themboth winners! I was blown away with how good they sound together. I wish both of them the very best in their new careers.
I liked them both and I don't understand all the nastiness...by some posters. They are both talented in different ways and they both deserve their success. Personally, I would buy both of their recordings (so long as I like the songs of course).
Best of luck to both of them.
So excited right now!! WAY TO GO KRIS!
To where? To a "NOT TO WEAR!". He needs a makeover!
He can not sing HIGH notes so he's not a SINGER!
Com'on!
I'm an alto and can't sing very high notes either--does that make me not a singer? I know of some horrible singers than CAN sing high notes... just a thought. I'm glad Chris won :)
1st of all "NODISCRMINATION....." you are a fly by night blogger... You just came on last night...right??? or you have taken on another name.
2nd Check out singers like Gordon Lightfoot, Paul Simon, John Lennon..... not everyone needs to yell or belt out high notes to be a successfull singer.
3rd.... Kris is an artist.... not just a performer.
Adam is just as much of an artist - if not more - than Kris. Let's not forget that either...
To label Adam just a performer, which is implied, is just nonsense.
Hey, randomsingergirl - much love for the altos! Some of us can sing some pretty high notes, but that's not what makes a person a singer.
So Kris doesn't have Adam's range - he's a talented guy and HE WON.
atlgirl, randomsingergirl: Altos definitely rock! :) I can sing some really high notes too but not any medium-high notes. Guess that makes me a bad singer. lol
Agreed - there are TONS of artists without much range and they do very, very well in the music industry. Kris is very talented regardless of whether he has Adam's range or not. And no one should be detracting from his win by saying he can't sing. Obviously he can and I, for one, enjoy listening to him. I enjoy Adam's voice more, but hey - we are all different and as such have different musical tastes. If we didn't, this would be one boring thread. :)
Interesting finale. This is why American Idol makes no sense. I have been a Kris Allen fan from the very beginning, but to ask America to choose between to polar opposite artists is just bizarre. Kris is a true musician. He understands the composition of a song and can arrange a song so that the whole band is cohesive. That takes true musical talent. Adam is a dazzler. No one can deny his vocal abilities and his flamboyant star power. How do you decide between two obviously talented people who are so vastly different in their musical abilities?
I just hope Kris doesn't end up on the receiving end of the backlash that has already begun to ensue...
The "flamboyant" (DISCRIMINATION!!!) should be the American Idol!
If Kris can make arrangementes for sure he can not sing high notes!
Who's the real singer???
Adam has the vocal range. Kris' range is as good as mine. Decent, but limited. Adam's arrangements were dazzling. The truth is, Kris needed to win this more than Adam. Adam will record records and do theatre/film. Kris is part of the Jim Croce set.
Big difference between "dazzle" and "flamboyant"
NODISCRIMINATION... you are creating something that isn't there and putting words in people mouths.
I loved it that Kris and Adam were polar opposites. We didn't chose between two of the same. It was just delicious!
Adam outclassed all the competition from the beginning, he made the rest look like a real high school musical. I think is was a backlash vote having to do with religion and sexual perference certainly not talent. Kris has no stand out appeal but you all are right about that awful song Kara wrote. I can't imagine having to choke my way though that over and over.
The show was great with so many really wonderful acts Kiss, Rod Stewart, Cyndy Lauper. I loved Adam with Queen and could see him taking over wher Freddy Mercury left off. He has the voice and showmanship to pull it off as no one I've seen before or since.
I believe Adam just has a different style. Not that he outclassed anyone. It is very difficult to compare different styles of singing. I doubt that the vote had anything to do with religion or sexual preference. Not everyone enjoys hard rock just like there are people who can't stand country or classical. Adam is definitely a hard rocker.
I agree. Adam was so obviously better than the competition. Gay backlash probably did play a role.
Adam is definitely a hard rocker.
I thought all of you anti-Adam people thought he was Broadway or theatrical? He set the bar so high, he became the favorite and did the season with a target on his back.
NY2LV - he's both, and much more. I think Adam can transcend labels. I don't know why people are so quick to try and slap a label on him. At the finale, he sang Mad World - not one of his more "over the top" songs. He can be understated just as easily as he can strut his stuff.
Nothing to do with backlash at all, IMO. I got tired of hearing him scream those high pitches. Adam has a wonderful voice, but those screams ruined it for me. And he found a way to incorporate them into every song he sang. Personally, I enjoyed his singing until that point, and then I got turned off... like nails down a chalkboard.
Mad world was FANTASTIC... until he started screaming out the high notes at the end. So, unless that pitching is a gay phenomenon, it wasn't sexual bias for me. It was purely based on the aesthetics of vocals.
Adam will do well regardless. But he will do great if he stops that annoying noise.
Adam Lambert will be remembered as the biggest star ever discovered on American Idol. Kris is a nice kid but will not be able to sustain the exposure from this competition and ever become a real star. Adam already is and will be for years to come. It should be obvious to everyone, and I believe Adam's future success will prove, that American Idol is not an acurate or reliable vehicle to Music Super Star status. For the most part, past seasons winners bear that out. I for one, and I believe there are many, many others, will never watch the show again. AI has lost it's charm. Time to move on. ADAM RULES !!
that's right! he will be moving on and on ...to be famous and an icon! way to go adam!
It remains to be seen how successful any of them will be after this point. You have no idea what Kris will or won't be able to do. He is a very talented musician. He was great with Keith Urban.
It's an easy call to predict Adam's future super star status. People are trully blown away by his talent and presence. Sold out concerts are a given. I believe strongly the future will show that Chris will not achieve a high level of success. He does have talent, and a certain style that may appeal to a narrow audience. Even he acknowledged that Adam should have won, immediately upon being given the title. I also strongly believe Chris won on the religious vote, which he also previously stated he did not want to occur. For that reason I feel this is sad night for this country.
very well said
Just stop with the manufactured "homophobia" you are trying to create an issue that is NOT there..... I could give a crippled crap who Adam is sleeping with.
Here is a thought... What if Adam is not gay???? What if you are manufacturing all this imaginary hatred just as back lash against Kris and YOU ARE WRONG????
DragonWoman - just because you don't care about his sexuality doesn't mean that there are not PLENTY of people out there who DO give a damn, and who probably did vote against Adam for that very reason. It's naive to think that it played no role. How big of a role it played is anyone's guess.
"Adam Lambert will be remembered as the biggest star ever discovered on American Idol"
Really can't see him getting to the Carrie Underwood status, at least not with his music.
And Larry "a sad night for this county ???" Really ???? When one equates the results of a reality show as a sad night for this country, they might really want to get a little more intune with real issues going on currently in the world.
SlinkyGirl... Yes, I am sure there are those who are homophobic... but that does not mean that ALL who voted for Kris are. Can you even come up with a percentage of those who "anti-voted"?
I have been keeping up with the articles Vaucets has put out and I can safely say there has been more hate speech against Danny "the guy using his dead wife" or "the preacher" or Kris the "cute... tween star" than anything ripping up Adam for possibly being Gay.
Dragon: a crippled crap?? Too funny, never heard that before. LOL Will definitely be using it from now on, though.
It is all yours!! I actually robbed my brother of that one.
eghirarduzzi... Reagarding my prediction: "Adam Lambert will be remembered as the biggest star ever discovered on American Idol." I stand by this statement as the intense passion generated by this new star, in those fans that "get it" will be BIG. Apparantely, Led Zepplin, and Queen agree with me and not your assessment that: "Really can't see him getting to the Carrie Underwood status, at least not with his music." I believe Rock is bigger than Country as far as audience demographics, so again, weak point. Yes, Carrie is great, (although she performed weakly in the Tuesday final show) but does not generate the extreme reaction in her fans that a rock artist like Adam can, so again, a weak comparison. Even Adam fans in Europe were commenting on YouTube that they wished they could vote!
eghirarduzzi said:[And Larry "a sad night for this county ???" Really ???? When one equates the results of a reality show as a sad night for this country, they might really want to get a little more intune with real issues going on currently in the world.]
Okay, let's discuss the real issues of this world. We obviously live in a world in serious peril on many fronts. I'm more than aware of this. However, homophobia is one of those serious issues. You miss the point that what occured in a reality show can still be an indicator of the sad state of antiquated homophobic sickness still alive and well. This show is also a social barometer as is the most watched entertainment event on TV and a venue that issues like this unfortunately are brought to the attention of the world. Adam has a huge fanbase in the Philippines, where gays are accepted and enjoyed entertainers, with no stigma attached. An Adam fan writer on this forum lives in Japan.
Kris could barely sing 2 of the 3 songs in the final. Adam even won the vote on this forum for best performance last night by 35-23! It is talent and not their musical genres which are the issue. The anti-Adam vote is, and it is not even exclusively based on percieved sexual preference, but rather on his presentation as "different". Alot of Americans haven't learned to embrace "different" due to their own insecurities.
So Adam is already a world-wide phenomena, in Asia, Eurupe, and elsewhere, (a status Carrie will never achieve). So why do you think he came in second in his own country?! Some Americans aparentely still have some issues they need to deal with.
Dragon woman - I don't know that anyone could come up with a percentage of anti votes, or any type of vote. But particularly, anti votes if they are based on bigotry - because, as I said in another posts, a great number of prejudiced people are unwilling to admit that they are prejudiced. It does not fit with the image they have of themselves. They often overcompensate by insisting that they are not prejudiced. So no, I don't think it's possible to come up with any sort of percentage of the vote that was affected by Adam's alleged homosexuality.
Larry1116550 & Slinkygirl... why does it have to be biased? Because your favorite lost? The prejudice seems to reside with you two... thinking that the majority of American opinions have to be wrong.
The thing that gets me about the homo agenda is this: they have a viewpoint that differs from the majority consensus, and they expect other people to respect that. But, when faced with someone that has a viewpoint that differs from theirs, they have no respect for that. (even resort to name calling of "homophobes" and the sort) So, in essence, they expect everyone else to do what they refuse to do themselves.
I could care less if what their bedroom habits are. But, if you are going to try to force the issue, then be respectful of another persons right to their own opinions. What if it was based on orientation, does that take away their right to vote? Their right to opinion? Get over your lame argument.
LDK - As I have said several times in various comments here, the issue is that his sexuality was made an issue at all, with headlines like "Is America ready for a gay American Idol?" The media drew attention to his sexuality as if it was a barrier to his success on the show, and I think that's a shame.
I could care less if someone wants to hate gay people - that's their business. I disagree with that on a fundamental basis, and that is MY business. But don't pretend that Adam's sexuality wasn't an issue. That is the only point that I am making. It was an issue, period. How much it affected the outcome is impossible to measure but the fact that it was mentioned, repeatedly, in the mainstream media indicates that his sexuality was on people's minds.
There are a lot of you homophobes waiting for his CD.
Cut it out, Brenda-251440. Preferring a singer doesn't mean anything with regards to one's tolerance level.
the talk of who will or won't be back to judge next year should be mute as there are a whole lot of viewers that are not bad losers but just so disgusted with the whole structure of idol that they definitely will not be tuning in next year. don't take my word for it = take a vote like you do on other things. true genius is ofter misunderstood and fear among the jealous has always plagued the truely talented. adam won every time he opened his mouth and sang with the gift that was given to him.
I simply just am amazed watching Adam, oh that cut during the black eyed peas I read on another site, the one member of the band used either profanity or a gesture that was inappropriate! So they cut to that image. Adam can't wait to see you on tour. Did anyone notice after they announced the winner the quietness in the place I think everyone was totally stunned.
Kris should have been voted off weeks ago.
Brenda, you are just way to wrapped up in this. Adam will be fine. Will you be OK?
thirdfeast - LOL @ "Adam will be fine. Will you be OK?"
(grins) I have my moments.
There was no quiet during that whole show. You must have had your volume turned down. That place was rockin when they announced the winner. Even Adam looked excited.
I'm so disappointed that adam didn't win. Simon was right that Adam is the kind of talent the show has always hoped to find. I think Chris is OK, but just that. Adam is in the superstar league. He has the whole package, looks, charisma, charm, and he can sing better than anyone I've ever heard on this show. He may be better off not having the title so he has more freedom but he still deserved it more. Chris is not someone I would buy a ticket to go see or buy a CD to listen to him because there's nothing distinctive about him. Adam, on the other hand, I'd stand in line for hours for. He's going to be bigger than any artist out there, and more successful than all the former and future idol winners combined. Come to think of it I don't know of another artist better than he all ready is. The fact he's gay doesnt stop women from finding him irrisistible either. He's hot and he can sing. Chris is lukewarm at his best. I don't know how he won. I'm more than disappointed. I'm really sad.
I'm with you let's just all have a big cryfest for Adam but, I think he would not want that, so let's all toast Adam and congragulate him on being a class act and a guy who can now have anything he wants!! We love you Adam!!
I know. I'm sad too. :( It was more of who's style you liked though, I guess, since they were both so different it's hard to compare.
I'm with you let's just all have a big cryfest for Adam but, I think he would not want that,
This thread is getting hilarious. The above sounds like a conversation overheard in a mortuary about uncle pete. ROFL
It was a friggin entertainment show that made buckets of money and gave exposure to a handful of talented artists that will now go on to finish molding their own lives.
Now LEAVE TATIANA ALONE lol
let's all toast Adam and congragulate him on being a class act
Absolutely! He is definitely a class act and a very gracious loser. He should be congratulated for being a good example. Not saying Kris isn't a class act or wouldn't have also been a good sport if he lost, but kudos to Adam for being genuinely happy for Kris.
thirdfeast - what is it with you and Tatiana?? LOL
I really wanted Adam to win. I think he was the best of all. He could possibly be the next Elvis.
The fact that I'm a Kris Allen fan and happy that he won aside, who had the best bod? Kara or bikini girl???
Couldn't really see Kara's it was sooo fast but her Abs looked more awesome than bikinr girl.
You're right, too fast...I'm sure that there will be plenty of "replays" or stills on the web tomorrow.
I know my husband will be replaying it!!
No comments about Bikini Girl's "change" in appearance since we saw her last?
Ryan noticed it right away. I thought his response about "I was gonna ask what's new but I can already see it" was priceless!.
Wow .... I missed a lot. =|
LOL Capn - I totally agree! I was cracking up when he said that.
Go Kara !!!
My 11 year old blurted out "her boobs are bigger" just before Ryan made his priceless remark. Cracked me up!!
Kara's almost 40, right? GO COUGARS - I mean KARA!! It had to feel good to do that!
Bikini girl
Yes, a lot of "Lambertians" (as I now like to call those adam lambert fans) are going to say that Adam got robbed.
Kris was a "dark-horse" through out the season. I had forgotten about him until the top 13. I was kind of a fan of his back then. Then I was a fan of Gokey. Danny was really really good, but when he got voted off, my next favorite was Kris. He kept surprisng us each week. I LOVED his OWN rendition of "Heartless." Indeed, it was better than the Kanye West version. I fell absolutely in love with Kris's heartfelt version of "To Make You Feel My Love" and more recently when he sang "Falling Slowly" from the musical movie, Once. I was definetly grooving out when he sang "Do You Remember" from Michael Jackson week. I love his up beat songs too!
I think there was so much hype over Adam that it seemed like no other contestant even had the chance. All that has changed now, and I'm loving it! I never was a fan of Adam. He was one of those obviously good competitors that really didn't need my attention. I cheered for the authentic (yes, Lambertians, I know Adam is also authentic, original, and more talented than Kris) and naturally talented contestants. I also enjoyed Michael Sarver (who I think got voted off too early), Alexis Grace, Anoop Desai, Jorge Nunez, Matt Giraud, and the equally amazing and impressive Scott McIntyre.
to end, I would like to say that the right man won American Idol. I think he has a lot to thank God for!
GOOOOOOO KRIS!!!!
Adam sang Beth like nobody else he rocked. Kris could never do that!! He is truly amazing Adam that is Kris is way too nice for the business and will fade in time. Sorry Adam is the real deal!!
Kris is way too nice for the business and will fade in time
Interesting thought - not sure I agree, but interesting.
Both of them displayed grace and humility; Kris in winning and Adam in losing - although I don't think he saw it as losing. In Las Vegas, the network Fox affiliate was there live and was able to get an interview with Adam after. (Of course, this must have been a few hours afterward since the show aired three hours earlier on the East Coast). He mentioned that he and Kris had talked about it and was genuinely happy for Kris. Kris seemed shocked that he won.
Don't know exactly what happened but, although both Kris and Adam are talented, Adam is clearly miles better vocally and as an entertainer. Was there ever a performance of Adam's that wasn't creative and showcased his amazing vocal range? I keep going back to "Ring of Fire" which wasn't my favorite by a long shot, but Adam definitely showed his ability and incredible ability. I'm sure they will both have their success, but a winner is still a winner and Adam deserved it this season.
I agree with you and I loved his version of "Black or White", it was perfect.
I wish I could say that I think it was just about who was preferred. Unfortunately, I think there were a lot of people who voted for Kris because they DIDN'T like Adam, not because they thought Kris was deserving of the win. I think the same would have been true regardless of whow as in the finals with Adam, and I think that's sad.
And no, that's not sour grapes. That comes from seeing so many comments on here from people encouraging others to get out the anti-Adam vote.
SlinkyGirl: there are a lot of people in my office who have told me that although they've never voted before, they voted for Kris last night because Adam is "creepy" (not sure where that came from; I guess they don't like his clothing style) so I know of at least 12 people who anti-Adam voted.
I think they are relishing telling me that because they all know how much I like Adam and he lost. Yep. I've got tons of friends at work. LOL
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